[JEB-JZA80]

hey guys/girls,

as some of you may know, i just bought my supra a month or so ago and i am yet to take it into regency for the dreaded "i.d inspection"..
im in a bit of a dilemma at the moment as i just realised something..
my head lights on my car appear to be series 2 headlights, but the indicators on the front are series 1.
now, ive been doing some searching and it appears that series 2 lights have their parker bulbs as part of the series 2 indicators but i have series 1 indicators, hence the reason why my car at the moment has no functioning parker lights.
im worried and not really sure what i should do as i was planning on having my partner take my car into regency this week. do you guys know if they check for functioning parker bulbs ? or will i need to buy series 2 indicators to pass.. im stressed about this :sorry:

so far ive:
changed the suspension/springs to stock
removed all tint
printed and placed a tyre placard on the car
replaced aftermarket steering wheel with stock
replaced aftermarket wheels with 16's from a Chaser
re-gassed rear boot struts as they wouldn't hold the boot up
marked the spare wheel with "80km/h max"

this is the only thing left that im worried about...

if anybody could shed some light on this id be very appreciative.

thanks in advance

-jeb

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This post has been edited by JEB-JZA80: 15 August 2010 - 10:27 PM

[KbaTz]

hey, i just took my chaser through regency on friday, and the first thing they checked was all the lights, and yes you need to have functioning parkers or you will fail :/ or if you are handy with electronics, wire up your foglights as parkers :P because they are the globes on the ends aren't they?

or can you turn your fog lights on without having your other lights on?? because this is what he told me to do.. "parkers, headlights, high beam, headlights, parkers" then all the indicators/brake/reverse lights.

[ma61turbo]

You need the first two items from MVP here.

Then follow the install guide here.

Or you'll need to get some S1 headlights and install them.

[JEB-JZA80]

KbaTz, on 16 August 2010 - 12:59 AM, said:

hey, i just took my chaser through regency on friday, and the first thing they checked was all the lights, and yes you need to have functioning parkers or you will fail :/ or if you are handy with electronics, wire up your foglights as parkers :P because they are the globes on the ends aren't they?

or can you turn your fog lights on without having your other lights on?? because this is what he told me to do.. "parkers, headlights, high beam, headlights, parkers" then all the indicators/brake/reverse lights.

yeah they're the ones on the ends and yes, if i turn my driving/fog lights on, they activate when i switch on just the parkers, which i guess makes them appear to be the parkers, you think they'll pick up on this ?

or if anybody has any spare series 1 headlights that they're willing to lend/rent to me or if you know of any workshops etc that would rent them out, please let me know!

This post has been edited by JEB-JZA80: 16 August 2010 - 02:46 PM

[rabbit]

contact me via pm, if you really get desperate. im sure you ll still pass with these,

but the only problem with my series 1 headlights are, i didnt put back in the little covers for the parkers lights, and it looks dodgy cauz i used some i high temp glue.

[Chau]

The Identification Inspection wasn't bad at all for me. They pretty much only checked height (missed the green coilovers heh?) and how loud it was. They also had a _basic_ look at the engine bay. I was there during day, didnt turn on lights or anything.

[KbaTz]

If you can have the fog lights on without the headlights being on then I'd give it a go :P just go on a friday afternoon lol. Its just a basic test as chau said. so doubt they would notice, but its up to you.

[JTMILLER]

Foglights wont work, as they will still be on when you flick on to full lights, and then you will fail for having fogs on... They also wont comply with a chunk of the ADR i have posted below.
Do it properly, do it once.

Parking lamp
White in front, red at the rear, amber if reciprocally incorporated with side –direction-indicators or side marker lamps.

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2.7.19. "Front fog lamp" means a lamp used to improve the illumination of the road ahead of the vehicle in case of fog or any similar condition of reduced visibility.

2.7.22. "Parking lamp" means a lamp which is used to draw attention to the presence of a stationary vehicle in a built‑up area. In such circumstances it replaces the front and rear position lamps;

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Few differences there in the ADR as to how bright the light would be

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6.12. PARKING LAMP (Regulation No. 77 or 7)

6.12.1. Presence

On motor vehicles not exceeding 6 m in length and not exceeding 2 m in width, optional.

On all other vehicles, prohibited.

6.12.2. Number

According to the arrangement.

6.12.3. Arrangement

Either two lamps at the front and two lamps at the rear, or one lamp on each side.

6.12.4. Position

6.12.4.1. In width: that point on the apparent surface in the direction of the reference axis which is farthest from the vehicle's median longitudinal plane shall not be more than 400 mm from the extreme outer edge of the vehicle.

Furthermore, if there are two lamps, they shall be on the sides of the vehicle.

6.12.4.2. In height:

For M1 and N1 category vehicles: no special requirement;

For all other categories of vehicles: above the ground, not less than 350 mm nor more than 1,500 mm (2,100 mm if the shape of the bodywork makes it impossible to keep within 1,500 mm).

6.12.4.3. In length: no special requirement.

6.12.5. Geometric visibility

Horizontal angle: 45° outwards, forwards and rearwards.

Vertical angle: 15° above and below the horizontal. The vertical angle below the horizontal may be reduced to 5°, however, if the height of the lamp is less than 750 mm.

6.12.6. Orientation

Such that the lamps meet the requirements for visibility forwards and rearwards.

6.12.7. Electrical connections

The connection must allow the parking lamp(s) on the same side of the vehicle to be lit independently of any other lamps.

The parking lamp(s) and, if applicable, the front and rear position lamps according to paragraph 6.12.9. below, must be able to operate even if the device which starts the engine is in a position which makes it impossible for the engine to operate. A device which automatically deactivates these lamps as a function of time is prohibited.

6.12.8. Tell‑tale

Circuit-closed tell‑tale optional. If there is one, it must not be possible to confuse it with the tell‑tale for the front and rear position lamps.

6.12.9. Other requirements

The functioning of this lamp may also be performed by simultaneously switching on the front and rear position lamps on the same side of the vehicle. In this case, lamps that meet the requirements of front or rear (side) position lamps are deemed to meet the requirements of parking lamps.


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[--Golli]

http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/10514981/turp_0808_14_z%2Btoyota_supra_mkiv%2Bchampion_toyota_headlights.jpg

Fog on the left, Headlights in the middle, highbeams on the right. This is correct yeah??

Seeing as the fogs turn on and off with the parkers, I see the possiblity of them being passed as parkers.
I personally like the idea of wiring up the foglights as parkers and getting the right bulbs, quick and easy!

[JTMILLER]

The beam of the fog lights will be too wide to pass ADRs & Regency....

[KbaTz]

JT, I doubt they will even be able to tell. They don't turn off all the lights in the regency warehouse to check the beams of light they produce.

Assuming the rear parkers still work, I'd be doing it this way and just getting s2 indicator/parker lights when you can afford it down the track.

listen to the JZX owner.. We know how to do things dodgy lol :P

[IcE]

Rofl! Isnt that true!

[Mikey]

KbaTz, on 17 August 2010 - 10:48 PM, said:

JT, I doubt they will even be able to tell. They don't turn off all the lights in the regency warehouse to check the beams of light they produce.

Assuming the rear parkers still work, I'd be doing it this way and just getting s2 indicator/parker lights when you can afford it down the track.

listen to the JZX owner.. We know how to do things dodgy lol :P

Yup they wont be checking "angle" of light projection. they aren't that sophisticated.

they will just observe if efficient light is emitted for Parker / Normal Beam / and High Beam.

So by reading other replies. the S2 lights have a dedicated parkers? does that mean the S1 and S2 engine bay loom has the required connectors? or only S2 supra's do?

if they all do just connect your fog light to the parkers loom. if its not available, then just run a small single +ev line from your accessories to the engine bay to trigger a relay for the "fog lights" and use them as Parkers.

This post has been edited by Mikey: 25 August 2010 - 08:56 AM