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tires that time again.


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:45 PM

RE55S semi-slicks definitely won't last more than 10,000km on the street. even less when used on the track (i should know since i've gone thru a set with all my trackdays). also semi slicks aren't fun in the wet on a cold day - esp with 250+rwkw. again, i speak from experience since i couldn't be bothered taking them off for the street for a while.

RE050/A's are a good tire from what a few of my friends have been saying. the new RE001 Adrenalins are quite good too from the one report i've had from a mate who's running them. however, we still haven't worked out if the locally made tire (Elizabeth) is as good as the JDM produced one.

but all of this is no use for you since you can't get them in 19"


the other thing you want to consider is the actual width of your rim (8.5" 9" or 9.5"?). if you're running 245's now, can you fit a 275 wide tire? they may not fit well on a 9" wide rear...


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:32 PM

This link is useful for rim width vs tire sizing: http://www.bridgesto...50/size.html#19

a 255/40R17 will fit anything from 8½~10" width rim, but Bridgestone recommend a 9" wide rim (i run a 9.5" rear which makes them look nicely stretched). the overall diameter of the tire is 636mm which is what Supras generally run on.

the 275/30R19 fits 9~10" with 9½" optimal width. the OD is 648mm.
the 265/30R19 fits 9~10" with 9½" optimal width. OD is 644
as you can see, Supras with 19" tires sit a little taller than 17"s due to the increase in overall diameter (OD)


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:29 PM

Don't know if they come in 19" or not but Marangoni 'Mythos' are what I've just put on my baby with very promising results thus far. They are available from most city discount tyre centres although the boys at Mitchell Park were very helpful and knew alot about the tyres.

Hope this can be of some use to someone.


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Posted 07 February 2008 - 11:39 PM

Just checked out the Marangoni web site and they make Mythos in 17"-19".

Another thing to point out is that they won the Wheels Tyre competition recently (late last year or early this year can't quite remember) and beat Bridgestone Potenza's to the title.

I think they are cheaper than Potenza's too.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 10:29 PM

The rims are 9.0" wide. Searching around the net it seems quite common for people to put 275's on them, but I haven't seen any pics so don't know if they buldge over the edge of the rim and look funny. I'll ask at a tyre place before going out and buying some.

The Potenza RE-01R might be a go-er, pending price and availability. They only come in 275/30 and 245/35 in 19's though. Might end up staying with 245 wide tyres after all, but at least these buggers will be sticky.

The Marangoni Mythos sound good also, but they seem to be more of a winter tyre.


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Posted 08 February 2008 - 11:51 PM

I think a 245/255 would fit nicely on a 9" wide rim.

I have 265's on my 9.5" rears


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Posted 09 February 2008 - 10:06 AM

View PostDragosani, on Feb 8 2008, 11:29 PM, said:

The rims are 9.0" wide. Searching around the net it seems quite common for people to put 275's on them, but I haven't seen any pics so don't know if they buldge over the edge of the rim and look funny. I'll ask at a tyre place before going out and buying some.

The Potenza RE-01R might be a go-er, pending price and availability. They only come in 275/30 and 245/35 in 19's though. Might end up staying with 245 wide tyres after all, but at least these buggers will be sticky.

The Marangoni Mythos sound good also, but they seem to be more of a winter tyre.


275's might buldge a bit with 9" rims. depends on actual width and side wall profile as well. also note that not all 275 tires are 275mm wide - different manufacturers have different width 275's and side aspects. Bridgestones sit nice & square and are pretty accurate with real world sizing.

the Potenza RE-01R's are a fantastic tire. they've just been replaced with the RE-11 in Japan. if you can get them - get em now. i'll probably go with these for my next street tire.


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Posted 09 February 2008 - 10:15 AM

on my 9.5 rear i have had 310s on them


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Posted 13 February 2008 - 02:21 PM

Bridgestone were a complete waste of time. I went to the Edwardstown Tyre Centre and they had never even heard of the RE-01R, and had no listing in their system. They mentioned the RE-001 Adrenalins and said they'd be coming in 19" at some stage but couldn't tell me when. Then they tried to push a sale of 265/30R19 Yokohama's for $585ea, which was when I left.

Ended up going with 265/30R19 Marangoni Mythos' in the end. $320ea fitted at Wheelworx. Wheelworx were fantastic to deal with and I'll be going there again in the future.


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Posted 13 February 2008 - 03:06 PM

View PostHardy, on Feb 9 2008, 10:15 AM, said:

on my 9.5 rear i have had 310s on them


Maybe you mean 305 or 315? Not recommended as the tyre is too wide for the rim and handling would be terrible.

View PostDragosani, on Feb 13 2008, 02:21 PM, said:

Bridgestone were a complete waste of time. I went to the Edwardstown Tyre Centre and they had never even heard of the Are the RE-01R Aussie released? If not, they won’t have access to them.

, and had no listing in their system. They mentioned the RE-001 Adrenalins and said they'd be coming in 19" at some stage but couldn't tell me when. Then they tried to push a sale of 265/30R19 Yokohama's for $585ea, which was when I left.

Ended up going with 265/30R19 Marangoni Mythos' in the end. $320ea fitted at Wheelworx. Wheelworx were fantastic to deal with and I'll be going there again in the future.


By the sounds of it, when your new tyres need replacing, the RE001 will be available in 19s.

Interesting how you find your new tyres. I worked at a Tyre store during my studies and I found that the cheaper tyres performed well when new but rapidly degraded with road noise increasing and the grip levels decreasing with tyre wear.

I have seen so many brands come into the market and claim to be better then the top brands but not perform as well through out the life of the tyre.


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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:07 PM

View PostDragosani, on Feb 13 2008, 03:21 PM, said:

Bridgestone were a complete waste of time. I went to the Edwardstown Tyre Centre and they had never even heard of the RE-01R, and had no listing in their system. They mentioned the RE-001 Adrenalins and said they'd be coming in 19" at some stage but couldn't tell me when. Then they tried to push a sale of 265/30R19 Yokohama's for $585ea, which was when I left.

Ended up going with 265/30R19 Marangoni Mythos' in the end. $320ea fitted at Wheelworx. Wheelworx were fantastic to deal with and I'll be going there again in the future.


oops... i forgot to mention that the RE-01 and RE-01R was never available to Australia. and of course, the RE-11 will just be JDM only.

same goes for Yokohama - most of their nice stuff isn't available here. AD07 is fantastic but was only delivered in limited batches (for Lotus Cup, etc)


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Posted 11 July 2008 - 04:04 PM

View PostYiros, on Feb 13 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

Interesting how you find your new tyres. I worked at a Tyre store during my studies and I found that the cheaper tyres performed well when new but rapidly degraded with road noise increasing and the grip levels decreasing with tyre wear.

I have seen so many brands come into the market and claim to be better then the top brands but not perform as well through out the life of the tyre.

You're pretty much spot on. The Marangoni Mythos were great when new, but now that the tread has worn down a little the grip levels have dropped dramatically. In the dry I can wind it on in first then a quick shift to second will see the car fishtail all the way into third gear (I'm only running stock boost btw). In the wet they're a death trap, with wheel spin from low throttle in 1st, 2nd and 3rd when the FIRST turbo spools. I have also gone sideways a few times at over 100km while travelling in a straight line in the wet (fscken scary!!).

They're wearing down very quickly now. That's to be expected with all the wheel spin, but I think they're wearing out even quicker than just from that.

Tire noise is great with them though - they're very quiet.

My overall thoughts are people should avoid them for use with TTs. I definitely won't be getting another set. Basically when they get down to a bit over 50% tread all traction goes out the window.

By the time they wear out it'll be bang on 6 months since I purchased them. That's probably about 8,000kms travelled. Most of it daily driving with only a couple of hill runs. No burn-outs or really silly stuff, although I'm being a bit silly with them now just because it's fun.

There are ads on the radio from a major tyre center selling the "Italian made Marangoni Mythos for performance and sports cars". Maybe by performance and sports cars they mean commodores? Because they're definitely not good enough for a true sports car like a TT Supra.


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Posted 11 July 2008 - 04:25 PM

Thanks for the feedback, they are very much like my neuton n500's.

In the wet they are absolutely ridiculously terrible, no traction at all, spins if you floor it at 120km/hr. In the dry they aren't too bad, still kicks out sideways and leaves smoke from 1st-2nd gear change.

My next tyre setup will be Mickey Thompson ET streets for the rear in 265/40/R18, $370 each, and Kuhmo V70 on the front in 235/40/R18 $320 each.

The car wont be driveable in the wet, but I doubt I will drive it in the wet anyway, this setup will hook up like crazy on the street I think.

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