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The NA-T thread


#1 User is offline   killa 

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:39 AM

im looking within a yr or so to turbo my car either single turbo or twin setup

alot of people say turboing a NA supra will cost anywhere between 7-10 grand

ok i know nothing much about engines but cant you just add a turbo to the car like a bolt on turbo

then do the required engine mods

wouldnt that be alot easier ?

cheers

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:46 AM

if you buy the PHR stage 2 kit from boost samarui, you have everything you need for fast turbo NA. you wont have to purchase anything else, except for a boost guage and any other guages u want, and if u dont wanna use the map-ecu, youll have to buy an ecu to work well with kit, not just an safc. thats pretty much it, buy kit, take it to shop, let them have headaches with it and then drive away no more to pay lol!

oh and ull need exhaust, and maybe boost controller if u dont wanna just run off wastegate!

anyone correct me if wrong plz!


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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:58 AM

Ok.

Given the amount of discussion on this topic, I have decided to dedicate this thread (thanks Matt) to ABSOLUTELY ALL NA-T discussion.

Any new threads on this topic will be deleted/merged into this one. No exceptions.

PK

p.s. Matt, this is a hint that you need to find existing threads, and not just begin new ones at random...


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Posted 08 September 2006 - 12:19 PM

[attachment=504:attachment]Here is something i found for you NA guys.......

Im pretty sure no one would be intersted in purchasing this....

any one got any info about this product???


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Posted 08 September 2006 - 12:23 PM

View PostStikasupra, on Sep 8 2006, 12:17 PM, said:

Attachment attachmentHere is something i found for you NA guys.......

Im pretty sure no one would be intersted in purchasing this....

any one got any info about this product???


:lol:

Translation anyone??

C'mon - it's cool... B) :yes:

:banghead:


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Posted 08 September 2006 - 01:12 PM

View PostPK, on Sep 8 2006, 12:21 PM, said:

:lol:

Translation anyone??

C'mon - it's cool... B) :yes:

:banghead:


I want my NA to go... Woosh. That's the only purpose for turbos isn't it??? :doh:


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Posted 05 November 2006 - 05:06 PM

Hey im in kinda got the same idea as matt in about 10 months time i'd like to spend around 7-10K B) on either going na-t or selling up an going TT. Dont know which is the better idea and what to know if its even worth going na-t on a SZ without and LSD?

Would you get more than 210KW out of a na-t kit?
Would there be heaps of reliability problems wid a na-t?
(realy dont want the 2 weeks on road and 2 weeks off road u get with a TT 300zx)
An is 7-10K realistic with ECU and Boost controler?
Any help would be sweet :thanku:


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Posted 05 November 2006 - 05:23 PM

We really need someone to go down the GE turbo convo just to see which way is better (Any volunteers???).
Relax would be able to shed some light on the cost for a GTE engine drop I believe.
Certainly a much DEBATED topic...yet would be great to have some hands on experience in this area!
In the future I will be waying up my options too.
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 05:56 PM

you could do an awesome na-t setup for 7-10k. i think 250rwkw is easy with that cash. to make it reliable you will have to lower compression wiether with headgasket(cheaper commonly used route) or get forged low comp pistons(not neccessary).

you qill also want a standalone and a manual tranny. auto will blow at 200rwkw if u want to enjoy ur car me thinks. the 6 speed sz-rs are favourable as they use the getrag gearbox as opposed to 5 speed w58 jza80 tranny. if u have the 5 speed, you could replace with the 5 speed r154 supra trany from a70 1jz supras as their strong. the 5 speed in the sz isnt really suitable, some blow them easy, some dont, its luck of the draw!~

lsd is not a biggie if u dont have one, u could drop one in for reasonable price!

to lower compression with thicker heqadgasket, you can use 2mm, 2.5mm or 3mm. the 2mm will give u better response but maybe not allow real high boost as a 3mm would.

go to supraforums.com. theyve done the na-t in the states dozens of times with good reliable results. but they have access to heaps of off the shelf kits, which can be used on our cars, but due to being RHD, may foul out with steering colum etc on the pre fab made wastegates pipes, downpipes, and manifold etc etc

only downfall in na-t overall is, you run the risk of non roadworthyness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 22 January 2008 - 08:22 PM

Bringing the topic of NA-T back for the moment. I've been doing alot of reading on the subject lately. By the looks of it if your just after a turbo for the pure fact of going woosh....and to have a reason to have a sexy front mount then its not toooo bad. by that i mean you can safely "going by reading several NA-T articles done in the states" put 6-10psi through it without decompression or touching internals. The 2 biggest problems im seeing at the moment is the oil return line, and getting around the whole RHD thing. If you are after a bit of boost and just want to ability to say you have a turbs then yeah...i dont really see a problem with this setup, but obviously if your looking for bigger HP and a bigger woosh :D then decommpression, larger injectors etc are the go. i am definately looking at doing a similar setup to the above mentioned. Nothing huge but a bit of boost. If people are interested in this as im sure some are then i think if we could get the whole setup worked out and some parts sorted we could be on to something.

Feel free to use or abuse my thoughts. Im not overally mechanically minded so if im missing something big please let me know.

jimmy


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 09:33 AM

ha ha old skool


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:55 AM

So heres my question though - you do all that work - why not get a fresh import from japan twin turbo -

im sure the effort of changing engine - spending 8 k to have what a stock twin turbo no better than a normall twin turbo supra

( also you dont get the bigger brakes and all the extra goodies if got right model )

you might be lucky and find 100,000km or less twin turbo for 22k ( especially when we have Kimbo sinergy on board )

say you spent 18k on your NA to buy it - and installed turbo kit - or new engine + 8k = 26k



you could buy a twin turbo for 26k or 22k instantly have 2 - 3 k to play, with bigger intercooler etc

i always wanted to keep my supra - do conversion or rebuild - but the 91 model 1jz with extras thats comes with the car making me look into selling soop and buying jza70 :)

so id go along that line - unless you really love your car and cant part with it :fool:

my 2 cents worth


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 07:16 PM

This issue has been thrashed out more than Hardy's ass...

At the end of the day, we all know which way is smarter financially, but then there is the stigma of having an NA-T...

I entertained the idea for a while - somewhat glad I didn't get the opportunity!

PK


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 07:36 PM

View PostPK, on Jan 25 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

This issue has been thrashed out more than Hardy's ass...


:D :D :D not possible!!!


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Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:30 PM

Damo will know all about that hay Sexy in a black mini :)

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