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2006 First Ever SA Supra Dyno Day - 28th Oct Lay down the neddies folks, it's time to hit the rollerz..


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Posted 15 August 2006 - 10:55 PM

Hello Clubbers,

OK, as promised I would like to organise a Dyno Day for the club now that AutoSalon is out of the way.

I have been on heaps of rollers in my time, if you haven't had it done it is pretty cool.
Obviously a great, controlled environment for dialing in engine performance.
Even if your car is stock it is sometimes handy to get a baseline/healthcheck on it eg. stock TT should pump say 180rwkw+ on a manual yeah? If car only squirts 140 then you know you gotta probby.

Now, re: venue - I reckon to suit northerners and southerners we should have a central location. I have dialed my car in at MRE which is at Thebarton. They use a MainLine Dynolog dyno which seem to run about 10% lower than Dyno Dynamics in shootout mode for some reason (eg. I ran 320 at HiTechs DD, and 290 on MRE & AutoSalon's DynoLog).

I asked Jason (workshop manager) at MRE last time I was in what the deal would be for a club meet and he said it was $45 for 3 power runs inc. barbeque lunch. They also take a digital pic and slap this onto your dyno readout, and they also laminate your dyno sheet for durability. That is a pretty good deal I can tell ya. I have paid $75 for a simple diagnostic power run elsewhere.

Day of week would be Saturday morning.

Apparently Brenton @ Fours'n'More isn't able to do Sat morning dyno sessions as he has family commitments otherwise I would expect we would support them as a club for sure.

OK, please register your interest here by continuing to copy and paste the last list.

NEW SA Supra Dyno Day List >>
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1. Reaper *PAID TIMESLOT 12pm - 1
2. darrenp **PAID TIMESLOT 9 - 11
3. fubar *PAID
4. yiros *PAID TIMESLOT 9 - 11
5. RZ TT 94 **PAID TIMESLOT 11-1
6. PK (first car on the RollorZ) *PAID TIMESLOT 9:00am, 1st car
7. BoostSamurai TIMESLOT 9 - 11
8. Relaxx *PAID TIMESLOT 11-1
9. ultra_supra *PAID TIMESLOT 9:00am, 2nd car
10. RZPECT **PAID
11. Andy's GTR buddy who reckons he's gonna beat us all! *PAID TIMESLOT 12 - 1 (going up against the singles!)
12. TEFE *PAID TIMESLOT 9 - 11 am
13. beasht (1J Cressy gonna kick your ass! whatchoo really packin' brother?) [may run - depends on diff]
14. Karma *PAID TIMESLOT 11 - 1
15. PlacentaJuan (another hybrid SupDawg concoction!) **PAID TIMESLOT 1pm, last car of the day
16. Sir Wooksalot! **PAID TIMESLOT 11 - 1
17. Big Jon with his new FMIC - time to wind 'er up maaaaate! **PAID TIMESLOT 11 - 1
18. Dan The Man
19. Shaun
20. Luke (MkIVSupra) in a Chaser V TIMESLOT 11 - 1
21. Chucky Cheese (first test run post snail replace) *PAID TIMESLOT 9 - 11 am
22. Soupy (new member - make him feel welcome people!) **PAID TIMESLOT 11 - 1

23. Sootie (and his collection of cars! 2-3 Sooprahs) TIMESLOT 9 - 11 am
24. Snootie (car 2)
25. Snootie again? (car 3 possibly - is this guy bloody John Laws? how many cars does he have?)

26. Sean [user: MS-75] (YES - the Mac Daddy of Crazy Hybrids is here and it's gonna eat us all for brekky!! I might as well just give him the Open category trophy now. I'm gonna try to bolt Sean to a timeslot so people can come down, see it run and pay homage :notworthy: ) TIMESLOT 12pm - 1


DATE IS NOW SET >>
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Sat. 28th October from about 9am onwards @

MILDREN RACE ENGINEERING
19 Phillips St, Thebarton
Ph. 8443 8744

PRICE >>
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$50 non-financial members
$45 financial members

(includes barbie snags/bread/ softdrink)

Payable by Wed 25th October. (PM with banking details sent Mon 9th October.)

TIMESLOTS >>
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There are now 2 approximate timeslots -

9-11 / 11-1


Please PM me your preferred slot. Whoever gets in first gets it.
If there is a problem I'll PM you back to sort it out.


Thanks all, any suggestions are welcome on this thread. Please chime in if you have any 'constructive' suggestions eg. we could have a mini cruise after the show.

Ta,
Gav :bye:


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Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:14 PM

Sounds like a great idea Gav.
I'll be in for sure...obviously depending on timing.
Mine's purely stock but would be great to have a baseline to see where to head in the future.
Good work chief...keep us posted!
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Edit By Yiros: 1 list might be easier


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Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:33 PM

sounds like fun, I need some dates to fit it in with work, but otherwise yeah.

:sex:

Edit By Yiros: 1 list might be easier


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Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:37 PM

I'm in as long as I can get time off


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Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:42 PM

Edit By Yiros: 1 list might be easier

This post has been edited by yiros: 16 August 2006 - 09:31 AM



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Posted 15 August 2006 - 11:51 PM

me in too please


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:56 AM

looking forward to it... have my new exhaust on now so should be interesting.

Edit by Yiros: Might be easier keeping 1 list going.

This post has been edited by yiros: 16 August 2006 - 09:03 AM



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Posted 16 August 2006 - 09:05 AM

Me in also. Could be a good laugh seeing how much/little my NA has...


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:26 AM

Im in depending on Day and time but I would love a baseline before my engine mods as I have always been a bit sceptical about the DYNO sheet I have lying around somewhere that I got when I bought the Beast.

Cheers
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Edit by Yiros: Might be easier keeping 1 list going. (there you go Andy stuck it on for you :lol: )

Yiros: Thanks for your help Darren :D

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:36 PM

Definatly in, hopefully have the car tuned and stuff and show up some of you 1j 2j boys ;)


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:42 PM

Good to see people are signing up - this will be fun no doubt.
As long as we don't go overboard we are apparently allowed to chug brews on the day (assuming we go to MRE), will go well with the barbie. Start trash talking each other now I say - TT vs. TT, NA against NA, single's deathmatch (errr... is that going to far? oh, it's only a 'power-off' isn't it).

Any suggestions other than MRE people want?

Also, I thought it might be nice to hand out some awards on the day eg. highest powered NA, TT, single (we have about 5 that I know of or in the soon pipeline), lowest power boobie prize etc. :crazy:

Can candidates also maybe post up Saturdays they know they CAN'T make. I reckon this club event will be in around a month's time ie. after upcoming cruises, golf days etc. That way the weather won't be hot OR cold - just right.

Now, WARNING - the MainLine DynoLogs (eg. the ones used at MRE & AutoSalon) regard themselves as the most accurate dyno's around, allegedly other dynos (eg. DD) read higher falsely from what I hear around the traps - and this means Dyno Dynamics IN shootout mode read higher. Presumably this is why AutoSalon use DynoLogs for consistency.

You won't be getting a big phat inflated figure from this event as DL's are designed for repeatable, durable, accuracy ie. they have consistent ability to measure parameters - important for tuning. See their site for more info >> http://www.mainlinea...ddyno/index.htm

[Soooo.... if you want a dodgy dyno you should go somewhere dodgy/crusty, slip the dude an extra 20, run outside shootout mode on a DD and stick the intake temp sensor up your butt for extra power via software correction, fiddling the ramp rates also helps apparently. ]

OK, everyone cool with that - I just want you to be in the know. For example, when I dialed in the GT40R on MRE I was as happy as a clam but still went to John @ Hi Tech the next day to get a real, shootout, CORRECT temp readout on DD so I could compare (290 vs 320 = ~+10%).

As they say, dynos are designed to show relative improvements in engine tuning ie. same dyno platform, same dyno settings. Comparing between dyno's is hard due to the issues mentioned above.

Thanks clubbers, please keep the comments coming. Club feedback on these issues would be informative to us all ie. please share your experiences/opinions so we can figure out where we want to go eg.

1. DD shootout mode, proper temp correction, proper ramp rate
2. DD, non-shootout, temp sensor up exhaust, dodgy ramp rate, brag to mates down pub after
3. DL, proper temp correction, proper ramp rate

Thank you,
Gaven


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:51 PM

I would prefer an accurate reading. My car is driving the best it has since I have had her. so smooth and responsive. I am curious to see what levels she is pumping out. Considering the age of the vehicle, if I hit the 120- 130rwkw, I would be happy


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:00 PM

Bonjour Andy,

Cool, accurate makes sense to me and you'll get that @ MRE.

I guess what sux is that half the planet uses DD at the moment - ie. it is nice to be able to compare shootout dynos to SOME degree because half the ones you find on the net are DD.

Don't get me started on the US DynoJets though - different calculations again!
And then there are hub driven units, ooh ooh - and Mustangs! :wacko:

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View Postyiros, on Aug 16 2006, 12:21 PM, said:

I would prefer an accurate reading. My car is driving the best it has since I have had her. so smooth and responsive. I am curious to see what levels she is pumping out. Considering the age of the vehicle, if I hit the 120- 130rwkw, I would be happy



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Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:08 PM

is it worth putting a NA car on the dyno ??

i would be curious as to how much mine was making but i wanna do the zorst and extractors first


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 01:14 PM

View Postkilla, on Aug 16 2006, 01:08 PM, said:

is it worth putting a NA car on the dyno ??

i would be curious as to how much mine was making but i wanna do the zorst and extractors first


Have a run before those mods and then have a run after those mods (on the same dyno)

That way you will see if you spent your money wisely.


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 03:31 PM

stock NA pulls 120rwkw give or take doesnt it, depending on condition

ill be in gaven if the date and time is right, saturdays are soccer days.

stock NA pulls 120rwkw give or take doesnt it, depending on condition

ill be in gaven if the date and time is right, saturdays are soccer days.


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 03:31 PM

Definatly get it done, just to see how it goes. When all the waterpump and siht is fixed, and then the bosch fuel pump, as it is im hoping for 150kw probably (which will be how it is unless I get my tax back soon)
then when I get injectors and comp and up boosted, run it at max, hoping for like 200kw, then tone it down to 1 bar and have 180kw for day to day driving i rection.

Just be good to see a whole bunch of soups getting dyno'd


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 04:16 PM

View Postsootie23, on Aug 16 2006, 03:31 PM, said:

stock NA pulls 120rwkw give or take doesnt it, depending on condition

ill be in gaven if the date and time is right, saturdays are soccer days.

stock NA pulls 120rwkw give or take doesnt it, depending on condition

ill be in gaven if the date and time is right, saturdays are soccer days.


is their an echo in the forum :lol:


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 05:20 PM

Hi Gav!

I went to a dyno day recently through a different car club at Graham West Workshop which is on South Road. Was very professionally organised, no dramas, good friendly service and cost $40 a head. This workshop is known for ACCURATE readings also.

Would definitely recommend them.
My $0.02 ;)


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Posted 16 August 2006 - 06:58 PM

u can count me in gav......
im interested in seeing what my car can pull

takecare
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